An Awareness of What Is Best and Most Beautiful
During May 1974, the noted Irish poet Desmond James Bernard O ‘Grady visited Srila Prabhupada at his quarters in Rome, and the two had a lengthy and lively discussion. Among other things, the spiritual leader and the poet discussed personal identity and individual duty, putting an end to war, modern education and its problems, life beyond time, and the essential nature of love.
The Realization That Brings Peace
Mr. O’Grady: Your edition of the Bhagavad-gita is very nice.
Srila Prabhupada: It is the fifth edition in two years.
Mr. O’Grady: In which country has the Hare Krishna movement been the most successful?
Srila Prabhupada: Everywhere. In Africa, America, Canada, Japan, China. But actually it has been most successful in America. Many Americans have taken to Krishna consciousness.
Mr. O’Grady: What about here in Rome? Have you had problems with the police?
Srila Prabhupada: We have problems everywhere. Police sometimes harass us, but usually they become tired and eventually don’t do anything. [Laughter.]
Mr. O’Grady: The system give up? That’s marvelous. I feel very tired of the system myself. Something is wrong with the present state of affairs. Maybe you can give me some advice on how to beat the system.
Srila Prabhupada: You Irish people! You are never tired of fighting.
Mr. O’Grady: No. [Laughter.] It’s inside us.
Srila Prabhupada: Actually, the fighting has been going on constantly.
Mr. O’Grady: Well, what do you suggest we do about it? I mean, is it morally correct for me to be sitting here…
Srila Prabhupada: As long as we remain illusioned by the bodily conception of life, thinking we are these bodies, one man thinking “I am Irish,” another thinking “I am Italian,” “… American,” “… Indian,” and so on–as long as this goes on, the fighting will go on.